Good morning and welcome to this episode of Cameo Coffee, where today I will be joined just by myself. I'm super excited to recap and go over the last 15 episodes that we've done with the WOFB podcast. So this episode is really going to be fun. You'll have to go back and listen to those episodes played for further features in all of these episodes. But I'm your host, Cameron Matheny. For those of you that don't know me, I'm principal of Cameo Studio Designs, visionary entrepreneur and recognized for the concept designer dopamine. This podcast is proudly presented by the WOFB and sponsored by my company, Cameo Studio Designs and Laticry. Today, it's all about the last 15 episodes. It was a dream of mine to have a podcast, to host a podcast, and to really support women in their power. Where we started this dream was where this is going and what the last 15 episodes has really orchestrated. But let me take it back. As far as getting this podcast from dream to reality, It took one person in the industry, and that's Michelle Winters, who is the founder of W.O.F.B. She saw me. She saw my strengths. She saw things that would be really great for me to do in the industry, aside from just this podcast, but just in business in general. So she was able to catapult that dream into what is now reality. and look at where we have come in just 15 episodes. This is truly, truly exciting and going to be a really, really great time. But first, let me do a little recap here. You guys are going to love this. all these fun recap for the last two the last 16 episodes What a great time, right? So much fun. And you guys just saw the video. So much life in all of these episodes. So much fun. Let's start with the very first episode that I ever did. I'm going to show this quick video of Angela and I, or Angelique, Angelica, Angie, Miss Weber, Nico Tati Designs. This is the very first time I think she was at Light Ovation with me. So life of the party, Angelica Weber, she's the founder of Nico Tati Designs. She and I went over the episode about designing success and how diving into her role in the tile community from a coverings ambassador. So she was a coverings ambassador just this year. She also discusses a lot of the importance of collaboration. And I, for one, loved collaborating with her. So I collaborated with her actually during the TICE event. So I was chosen as kind of like a new business for TICE to be supporting entrepreneurs. And she helped me put together my entire booth. She stayed with me during the entire weekend at TICE and just helped to push my business and lighting. She was there for all of the tours. I mean, truly where Angelica shines is when she is helping other people in the community and they shine. She loves that. She truly is my sister from another myth. I love her. So shout out to Angelica Weber. Go check her out at Nikotati Designs. We're going to see more from her. I think she essentially is also now doing some things with NTCA for marketing. They are so lucky to have her. Oh my gosh. So on the next episode, I met with Maggie Doyle, who that episode was flooring forward with Maggie. She has a master's degree in fine arts. She's based out of Texas. Most of my people are based out of Texas. What is up with Texas? Michelle Winters is from Texas. Anyway, Maggie talks about the importance of creativity in the tile space. So with a master's in fine arts, She really is able to expand on what that looks like from a creative perspective. So I think we're going to see more from her. She has a little bit of an entrepreneur spirit. So I think we're really going to see more from her in the design space of Tile. So one of my favorite episodes, which I have a lot, but one of my favorite episodes was the live episode from Coverings. where I was with Michelle Winters, founder of the WOFB, and Julie Ireland, who's an L.A.-based designer. We had a blast covering that show. We also were at that show to support Julie Ireland as she launched. her own tile line curves with marble systems. So that was super exciting to watch. It was super exciting to hang out with just all of our friends and really create that camaraderie through the women's conference that we attended and also seeing some of our future episodes with Megan Rink, she received the Rockstar Award. And also Angelica Weber, not only, you know, was she an ambassador, but she also spoke on that panel for being, you know, a woman in this role of design being a minority in the tile space. So it was a really great show. That is actually where I met Mercedes from Mercury Mosaics, who has an amazing story. She was on the next episode, but she had an amazing story of triumph for her journey from beginning in the tile industry. So being an artist and then getting into the tile industry, into tile manufacturing. Her production is incredible. You guys have got to go check out Mercury Mosaics. She is who has done tile designs for Starbucks, Lululemon, and really does some great community advocacy for neighborhoods. So she did this incredible mural to support Black Lives Matter. I believe it was just outside of the Detroit area, but don't quote me on that. You'll have to go to her website, though. It's Mercury Mosaics. She also has like a kid's game or a kid's puzzle that she also did or painting mosaics. You guys, there's so much information I've gotten from all of these people across all of our businesses. So also, Megan Rink does something like that, too. She does a puzzle through the NTCA. But On one of my next episodes, I talk to, again, one of my favorite women in the tile or design space, and that is Alison Eden. Oh my gosh, she is like, as soon as I saw her in the Artist Village, I don't remember if it was at Coverings or Tice, I was like, I have to know this woman. She is the Betsy Johnson of tile design, of mosaic glass design. Just an incredible woman. She reflects on brilliancy, what it's like, what it was like to be living in New York, being an entrepreneur in New York. And Allison goes over what it was like starting her own business over 30 years ago and how she ran an ad. how her first job was like installing flooring at a Burger King. I mean, you guys, you have to go listen to this episode. It's like epic. She is epic. I'm so looking forward to seeing her in a couple of weeks in her space as I go to New York to visit Alison. It's going to be a really, really good, good visit. So check out Alison Eden and all of her glass mosaic. It's I've gotten the samples from her. Oh my gosh. I've got them all around somewhere, but incredible. Absolutely incredible. And I did another episode. So I do these Cameo X Coffee, collaboration with coffee, so to speak, which cheers, good morning. But I do these episodes where when we don't have someone or I'm not interviewing someone, due to weekly schedules or conflicts or just kind of getting out there and talking in general. I went over on the episode of what my path has been like as a serial entrepreneur. and the discovery of a need for lighting education in the tile space. So that's where I came up with the CEU Designer Dopamine, of which I have spoke about at LightOvation and am offering now the CEU through the Architectural and Design Board with one credit. So working with, hopefully in the future, Allison Mullins, Julie Ireland are really pushing this concept to teach people in design, to teach people in tile stone, truly the essence of lighting design and the importance of lighting design and how dopamine, Just like we get from getting likes on our social media. Ooh, we've got that dopamine rush, right? The feeling that we get when we see our lover, that excitement. Maybe it's eating chocolate. Maybe it's eating your favorite food. You get that rush of dopamine. For me, it's shopping. shopping and shopping for valentino heels oh my god lord baby jesus that is my favorite anyway so I really bring that concept now into the design space you know viewing art is also a way to entice dopamine and what lighting can do for the end user so that's all wrapped up into once the eu you guys will have to check it out um there will be a lot coming um from The CEU for designers, for architects, for builders, it really spans across all complexities of design itself. Because without lighting, I mean, think of like Times Square. If you've ever been to Times Square at Las Vegas, right? You arrive maybe at night. Think of what either one of those places would look like without lighting. Just dud, right? Same thing with when we bring lighting to a space. Lighting brings energy to a space. It changes a space. So I teach in this design dopamine, how to entice dopamine, how to bring that to the end user, but also how to change your space because in tile, especially tile showers, that's the one thing missing. I mean, tile installers are true artisans. So to be able to capture that You know, with no lighting and a shower, I've seen it over and over and over. A shower just looks drab and boring. Or maybe you just have the wrong type of lighting. And so it washes out the tile design. It picks up the lippage, you know. So there's a certain way of how to, you know, really put lighting in spaces, but also the correct lighting. So again, I can talk about this all day. Maybe we'll do an episode just on designer dopamine. Or better yet, just do the CEU. It's 99 bucks for crying out loud. Okay, so the next episode I actually do where I got this coffee cup. So it was from the Madonna Inn. Oh my gosh. So the Madonna Inn in California, I was there for Mother's Day where everything at the Madonna Inn is pink. You guys, this hotel, you owe it to yourself, but it's like gaudy pink. It's gangster pink. It is so flipping cute. check out the Madonna Inn. The story with the Madonna Inn is really incredible too. So it's a great story about a ranch, about a couple using taxes, using all of this money for this entrepreneur himself to create his wife just something beautiful because she loved pink, which the story is very fascinating. So during that episode of me at the Madonna, I have the pleasure of interviewing Alison Mullins, The Art of Selling with Rep Methods, right? So I'm sure most of you have seen her. She's been a headline speaker for TICE at the women conferences. She really focuses on selling within the stone industry. She was at Coverings where she covered, again, the stone industry with Julie Ireland. They did some things with, I believe... Marble Systems, but don't quote me on that. But there was a lot of, she was out, she's everywhere, you guys. So if you're looking for someone to catapult your business, to catapult maybe your showroom and you're in stone or just looking for ways to sell, she's amazing. Allison is awesome. So go check her out. She gives lots of tips, selling methods. She'll definitely boost your sales, like I said. So Rep Methods is her company. The next episode. So guys, some of these episodes, we go live in different locations. So we've been to Atlanta. We've been to Florida. We've been to Texas a couple of times. We're going to New York. I mean, we can go anywhere. Super, super fun. But in this episode, I go out to Dallas where I am invited to the PTK, Profit Through Knowledge, where I was on a panel with Olatakri, which we love, love, love. But during this episode, I got to spend some time interviewing Susan Delato to learn about the history of profit through knowledge, which the day training was incredible. I met some incredible women there. I met Natalie from BPI. I mean, I met some really incredible women. So that episode was really fun to watch. Next year, if you're interested, able or if LATICRI hosts the PTK in your area, you should definitely check it out. To just see LATICRI grout mortars, any of their products on the shelf now, I have a completely different perspective from seeing how all of these products are manufactured from start to finish was incredible. Ron Nash is, he's incredible and we're really lucky. for women in the industry to have an ally like Ron Nash to support women in the industry. So shout out to LATICRE. They're also a sponsor of this podcast. So we love, love, love them. If you are looking for getting any materials from LATICRE, here's their website, laticre.com. They're all over the place too, guys. So I'm sure those of you listening are very familiar. Okay, the next episode, this one was really great. So Megan Rink talked to me about the power of mindset. So Megan, I met finally in person at coverings at the Women's Conference. She was with her little boy who was carrying around her rock star award, this glass award, like a saber. I mean, this kid was just incredible. She was really great to listen to just through her journey of where she once was, how she kind of rose from these ashes and just became like this rock star in her industry. She, you know, is an entrepreneur. She leaned on a lot of different people in the industry for help, to learn, and I'm really looking forward to see where she goes. I believe she has signed up to take the CTI exam coming up in February on International Women's Day. Debbie Winters is kind of spearheading that. Also, check out NTCA. They have some information on that as well. I'll also pull up some info, actually, while I'm talking to you guys about, let's see here, for the CTI exam. It's super, super exciting. We're hoping to be a part of that exam. I know that we'll not be a part of the exam, but we will be there as a podcast, and I cannot find the date on that right now. But we'll be talking more about CTI as it gets closer, but I'm excited to see Megan Rink kind of dive in and get her CTI exam. I think, again, she's going to be one to watch. She also has a puzzle, I believe, that is like pushed through the NTCA, so you can buy her puzzle through the NTCA. Once again, I'll have to come back to the CTI exam for that date. So then, oh gosh. So I had the episode with Megan and then the next episode, super incredible. This one was with women, empowering women in construction. And guys, you need to know, okay. I have a gender major. Okay. I have a undergrad in feminist and being a feminist, feminism. We don't call it that anymore. Women's studies is what it used to be called, but now it's just gender studies. My degree is from like 10 years ago. So when I spell women with a Y, it's about symbolism. It's about women and their autonomy. That is it. It's about symbolism for me. Women spelled with a Y for others might mean something else. So Put that in your pipe and smoke it. So for this episode, Empowering Women in Construction with Jessica Lynn. Wow. Jessica Lynn, you guys, she stands in her power. She's an author. She owns or co-founder of Hire Her. Jessica's all about sustainability with infrastructure and equality for women in the construction industry, LGBTQ, also really just pushing for equality across all genders. Her book is going to be releasing this year. Watch that episode. But she is someone that I love to talk to weekly. She's become a great friend, an ally for really pushing the revolution of women in the tile industry, which is super important. Oh my gosh. Another one of my favorite episodes. I think this was like episode maybe 10. Let's see. That was 10, 11, 12, 13. Of course, lucky 13 with Janna Valafueco. Mindfulness in the tile industry and beyond. Janna Valafueco. Inspiring to say the least. That episode is one, if you are struggling with, you need to go back and listen to. Because that episode, you know, for me, it was all about speaking from the heart, right? And when you're speaking from the heart, okay, genre really captures what that feels like. So being vulnerable, knowing where it's safe to connect. Also, Her experience when she was at ART, she went out to ART, which was just the invitation that was given for installers to create mindfulness. So she goes to all of these events. She helps people across the board becoming very mindful of speaking from the heart. Being vulnerable. You know, I shared some stories with her and she shared stories with me. But just how for her, she keeps, you know, elevating. Be vulnerable. Speak from the heart. Let go of the ego. You know, talk to people how you would like to be talked to. And so I love that because she's also a yoga instructor and we're gonna see a lot more of her in the industry, but she is like the guru. She's a guru of mindfulness in our industry. So I love, love, love that. Would love to hook up Megan Rink and Jana Valafueco. I think that connecting and making all of these connections for people, Megan talking to Jana, Also, Natalie Salazar that I talked to later on in the episode, she also talks about, you know, speaking from the heart. And it's really a beautiful thing when you can do it. I don't think Facebook groups are the places to do it because I've spoke from the heart from there before. And I told her, you know, I've become had had was once, you know, one of the most hated chicks on Facebook groups. But sometimes when you speak your mind, you get that, you know, comes with a grain of salt. So Janna Valaf-Gueco, check out that episode. For those of you that are just joining me, actually, you know what? I'm going to go live on one of my socials. So let's do this real quick. So you guys, you know, if you're looking at starting a podcast, you should totally do it. It's so fun. You meet so many people. You know, I am just absolutely grateful. For the people that I have met on the podcast and people that have reached out to me, for some, this is exactly what they needed, which I love. So let's go here. Okay. So those of you that are just joining me, again, I'm doing a recap of the last 15 episodes. I've already gotten through already about eight of these. So you'll have to go back. You'll have to listen to this episode. But this podcast is a community of women in flooring, tile, stone, designers, entrepreneurs. We are women in lighting and so much more who are passionate about personal and professional growth. And through this podcast, I told you, this is a platform for women to stand in their power and and to amplify their voices in our fields, and also to empower each other and flourish in business and in life. So socials that you can find us. So you guys have Laticry here. They are a sponsor. But also, if you want to be a part of a good community, check out womenflooring.com, where you can become a member there. You can be coached. There's some great things that are going on. Michelle Winters is a leader and a mentor there. Rachel, also mentor and speaker. There's groups you can join. And if you are looking at being a sponsor for the podcast, you can reach out to podcast at women flooring dot com. OK, so. Oh, and of course, I always forget about this. The CEU Cameo Studio Designs dot com. Guys, this is launching now. This summer, actually end of this summer, there's some really great studios that we're going to be hitting anywhere from Florida and Texas. For whatever reason, I keep navigating back to Texas. It's so hot there and I hate tornadoes. Do something in like Missouri so I can like, you know, go see my grandson and do all that. So all you Missouri showrooms, get on your game. You need Cameo and Designer Dopamine. so um okay so for the next episode so I'm like on episode I think like 11 no 14 now so natalie salazar um she's a co-founder of the networking group design collab and natalie is actually who I met she was on the panel at laticry for ptk so profit for knowledge She is an amazing rep for architects and designers. So she works for BPI. She does tons of sustainable products, is really just a woman, again, who she came on to the podcast. She talked about, you know, creating this network of women entrepreneurs. or other people in her industry that she can connect with to build, build, build. But it took her to have an open heart. It took her to go through some really tough times in order to have an open heart to start reaching out to people and asking, hey, I'm going to be vulnerable. I would really like to start this networking group. So she is a powerhouse too. One to watch, one to really, um, show for personal relationships. So go and watch that episode with Natalie Salazar from BPI. She's super amazing. Okay. I keep saying one of my favorite episodes, but a really powerful, impactful episode that I did was live from Dallas at Light Ovation. Guys, Light Ovation for me, going to that trade show, I love coverings. I love ties. You know, I love trade shows in general, but let me tell you, there is absolutely nothing like a lighting trade show. If you like fashion, which I love, but if you love fashion, Fashion and lighting are like, they run parallel. So those trade shows, it's like a fashion show with a party. There's live music in every showroom, you know, bars, there's people mingling, like the energy there is through the roof. It is incredible. So whenever I initially started my career in lighting, going to LightOvation for the first time was the, you know, for me, that was just like the bee's knees. I was so excited to be a part of that. So going to LightOvation, last year I went as a speaker for LightOvation and spoke on designer dopamine. That was truly a dream come true. Could not believe it. Right. First time I go out and speak about designer dopamine, it's a light ovation. I mean, how cool was that? Right. So light ovation this year, I got to go back and interview the CEO of Hubbardton Forge, which was Maria Mullins. And she won the leadership award from Women in Lighting. So she is 35 years in the industry and she always, always talked about through her entire career, leaning on her allies to continue to support her, even when they didn't believe in her. So I found that really, really fascinating. that truly, you know, she really stood in her power of leadership. She never gave up, even when she talked about Mr. Murray Feist, told her there is no position for women in leadership. And that is being a vice president. That is, you know, being a CEO. There's no room for that. And that was like, you know, in the 80s. And now, holy cow. you know, now we're seeing women in these groups and women in lighting, women in lighting and design, women in flooring, women in type, like across the board, women in construction, like Murray Feist was so wrong to say that, but he didn't know, you know, he was just a goofy guy that didn't know. He knew lighting and that was it, right? So the, the, The award that she won truly is something to be said. It's very exciting. It takes two years to be recognized for a woman in the leadership award. So we were able to interview her out of the Hubberton Forge studio, which was epic. I loved it. Their lighting design, truly USA made and manufactured. You know, forging metals, creating designs that are custom and then also just for the industry that can be used for interior design, but also exterior aesthetic for landscape lighting, but also sconces for, you know, you name it. You guys go to Hubbard and Forge. Super, super cool. But we were able to also show up at the Women in Lighting where Maria received her award packed house for that too. It was super great. If you are a woman in lighting and looking for mentorship, reach out to me personally. I will connect you as a part of our mentor committee to be seen and to be heard or just to teach, just to educate you more on lighting in the industry. Because you know, that's what I love. I also, from the Hubberton Forge studio, interviewed, while there at LightOvation, Michelle Winters and Angelica Weber, as they, you know, are starting to branch into, well, one, supporting me as a visionary in this industry of using both of these trades. But they were able to see firsthand what a lighting industry is all about. So they came for this podcast. They helped. They got to visit and see some of the reps that I talk with. They got to really visit and see the the back end of lighting what lighting does to spaces I mean truly light ovation is where lighting lives lighting is the jewelry of the house so we've got these beautiful decorative fixtures that like the fashion industry it changes every season so they were there in january and then they got to come back this summer and you know just to see that transformation of you know, where we're going, not only in the tile industry, which Julie Ireland, you know, talks about that and shows about how classic, right? Classic is timeless. And so where the lighting industry started to design was shying away from linear. So became more bulbous, rounded, soft, lighter colors. And Julie Ireland talks a lot about that too with her curves. And that's, you know, just goes to show you how important it is. All of this fuses together. Again, guys, I just bring lighting to the tile industry because there was that need, right? It's an art form. It needed to be showcased. Because wherever we bring light, energy lives, right? So it's just an added bonus. Anyway, I can talk about this all day long. But it was great to have Michelle Winters and Angelica Weber there. Always a life of the party. So my next stop in Dallas, that next episode... Oh, favorite showroom in Dallas, which is Vera Luz. Oh my God. Vera Luz, Ron Vera Luz, the founder of Vera Luz. Fabulous, fabulous. We looked at some of their top selling fixtures, which you have to go to that episode and see. It's also on my Instagram. I link Vera Luz, um, For all of the design that they do, they've been one of my sellers. Whenever I did just sell lighting, they were one of my favorite to sell, really bringing jewelry to your house. I mean, Ron Berlus goes above and beyond when he designs the lighting, which, you know, it truly takes a good eye. It truly takes an incredible designer, someone with some edge. That's my favorite. Like there's a lighting design that he did a fixture on. they're from he's from las vegas his mother was from las vegas and I think she was a go-go dancer or maybe was a dancer in the 60s right so she was inspired by elvira which who's not inspired by elvira but He created a light fixture from titty tassels that Elvira wore. And this fixture, I'll post it here in the next couple of days. And we'll relate back to this podcast. But it's chains. It's beautiful. You know, it's edgy. That's what I love about Veriluz. And they just seriously have no fucks to give when they're designing, which I love. Absolutely, I love. I don't know if I can say fuck on this, but I just did. If I can't, Michelle, just bleep it out. Okay. So one of the last episodes that I've done, this was episode 15. Oh, hold on. Let me go back to Vera Luz. I got lost with Vera Luz and the whole like Elvira and the titty tassels. I met with Kelly. So Kelly was the VP of sales for Vera Luz. And I absolutely love her because right off the gate, I've known Kelly for a long time. She, you know, calls me out on my personality and it's hilarious because You know, she's like, I'm a lot like you. I just, you know, have no filter. And because of that personality and because of her character characteristics, she actually took the importance of females in the role to the American Lighting Association six years ago and said, I want to start a group. And that was Will, W-I-L, Women in Lighting. So fast forwarding now, you know, I just talked about Maria Mullins who won the award for Women in Lighting. And, you know, Kelly... truly is, she truly did change, you know, the whole trajectory of what women in lighting look like. And it just keeps growing and growing and growing. Right now on our mentor committee, I think we have 80 women that we mentor. And, you know, thanks to Kelly, she just, she saw the importance and just like ran with it. So shout out to Kelly for you know, really just getting out there and not taking no for an answer. I don't think you can say no to people like us, right? We just don't ever shut up. When we have a vision or we want something or we see a need, we just go, go, go, go, go. So My last episode was last week. That was the 15th episode that I met with one of my favorite designers in the industry. You've heard me talk about her before. That was Julie Ireland, where she discusses her career, how her career started, all that she's been through from a Raiders cheerleader to having her own TV show. launching her own tile line with marble systems. The tile is called Curves. It's absolutely beautiful. You'll have to go check it out. And also how she was the co-founder of Home Renovation School. She is a professional DIYer, designer architect. So really cool chick in the design community and the tile industry. So I'm super excited to see what else Julie Ireland brings to the tile industry. And then I've also heard she's launching a lighting industry. So that will be fun to see as well. So But the interviews that are coming down the pipeline, Georgia Ezra, she's the creative director of Tile of Ezra. She's out of Australia. So she has her own HGTV series called They're in Australia. So I get to meet and chat with her. I met her at coverings as well. You guys, if you are not going to trade shows and you're a part of this industry, you need to be going to the NKVA. You need to be going to KVIZ. You need to be a part of your community. It is so, so important. Without my community and without the camaraderie of the WOFB, the WIL, Women in Lighting and Design, all of it, right? being a WBEC, like networking with all of these people. If you are an entrepreneur, you have got to network. Get out of your shell. Call me. I'll talk to you and direct you where you need to go. So Jane Hone, she's the former tile person of the year for NTCA. I'm interviewing her. Leslie Godden, one of my favorite people also in the tile industry. Many of you know her as the journalist and author of the Artisan Magazine. She is all over the place. She is so fun to watch and to read. I think she has a new blog, too, on her website. So, oh, there's some live people. I did not forget about you. Hi, Kathy. Oh, my gosh, Kathy Case. She's another one. Kathy, I need to interview you. I'm doing a live, guys. So Kathy Case is on the live. Kathy, I need to interview you for this podcast. You guys, Kathy Case, if you're looking for someone to do your estimating and to work that left brain, let's say you're so busy in your industry or in your business, you need Kathy Case. So she's mad at me that I don't use her for my, for all of my estimating, but I have a commitment with someone else or else I would have went with Kathy. So Kathy, we have to talk. Oh my gosh. I would love to have you on. She says, happy to join. Super, super. Who else is on the live here? Empire Tile and Stone, My Florida Home, Realtor, Grout About Bathroom, Remodels, Bradfink. Oh my gosh, some of my favorite folks. I love, love, love it. You guys keep watching. I love the support. Okay, so Leslie Godden and then Jane Callowart. She is an NTCA member and she's the co-owner of Dragonfly Tile. She's also the co-founder of Art Training, which I cannot... wait to dive deep into the art training. I heard about that. I wish I was an installer just so that I could have went. So maybe I can go for something next year. I don't know. Also coming down the pipeline, you guys, I cannot wait to start sharing some information about the CTI. There are so many women, you know, and this is one of the things that I am pushing and I'm going to probably get knocked down a million times for this. but I am truly pushing for a revolution of women, all women install crews. You guys know I run install crews across the country and I am so fed up with some of this masculine shit that I come across with installers. So what is my goal? I've talked about this for a couple of years. So those of you who are friends with me, those of you who know me, Like that is my goal. So being able to support the CTI, I'm going to do whatever I can to sponsor, to help, to push that. I'm going to do whatever I can to get an all female tile installation crew, like building and pushing and really, you know, pushing a revolution. So for those of you that don't know me, I can do it. I've done shit like this before. So it's going to be super exciting. I will probably get knocked down and canceled, but I do not care. I have thick skin, so bring it. With that being said, if you guys want to be, join us. Actually, if you want to be a part of a summer book club, the WLFB Facebook group, WLFB is doing a summer book club. We just did Rejection Proof, which was a super, super great book. Oh yeah, Kathy. Kathy. Never mad at you. She's an amazing artist. She is an amazing art. All of these women on that I've been with on this podcast are amazing artists. Also, guys, thank you so much to, this is my sponsor, LATICRETE. Again, shout out to Ron Nash, shout out to LATICRETE for always being there as an ally to support women in this industry. I cannot wait, maybe one day I'll be as big as LATICRETE producing, who knows, some cool tile with lighting and there's lots that goes on in my brain with design guys. But also be sure, women of the flooring business, join conversations, join our online community, connect with women like myself, like Kathy Case, like Gianna Vallafueco, like Leslie, Georgia Ezra, Julie Ireland, which I just said, Angelica Weber, Michelle Winters. Join women like Kelly, who pushed for women in lighting. Natalie Salazar from BPI. Push and stand for women that are a flooring stone. Janna Valafueco, Jessica Lynn, who pushes women in construction. Stand with and push for women like Megan Rink, who are single moms who are just really pushing to make a buck and be an incredible installer. So push and stand in your power for women like that. women like Susan Dilotto, who are spearheading profit through knowledge with LATICRI. Standing your power to really push and evolve these voices even more. Standing your power for women like Alison Mullins through Rep Method. Austin from Mercury Mosaics, USA made and manufactured tile creator. I mean, standing your power for someone like her. We love her. Love, love, love her. Michelle Winters, W-O-F-B, Julie Ireland, standing in your power for women like that. Angelica Weber, who brings something unique who are a minority of women in the industry. So standing your power for these women and those women that are coming down the pipeline. There are young women that, you know, they see tile installation, they see entrepreneurs as they can't do it. If I can do it, you can do it. If Megan Rink can install tile, you can do it. If Julie Ireland can be architect, designer, you can do it. If Michelle Winters can be a mentor of women in the industry for coaching, you can do it. So many women that just started out with a dream and a vision, if they can do it, you can do it. We all start somewhere. Push through those challenges and Push through any failures. Failures to me are always like success, being in the trenches, the peaks, ups and downs. You got to be a little sick about to be an entrepreneur and navigate through all of this. But at the end of the day, it is so worth it to be in control of your own financial future, to be in control of your own schedule. and just getting out there and doing what you absolutely love. So cheers to the last 15 episodes. I am going to play this banner one more time because I just absolutely loved watching this and it was just such a great time. all of these episodes, all of these great women. So excited to see everyone grow and prosper in this community. So until next episode, I am super excited. Thank you guys so much for joining me and I will catch up with you next time. Bye. Bye guys.