Oh my gosh, here we are, you guys. We are back with another episode of Flourish and Flooring with myself, host Cameron Matheny, principal of Cameo Studio Designs, visionary of all beautiful things combining lighting and tile. This episode, we are just about to wrap up season two, but this episode, you guys, I am so super excited. We are going to be meeting with Georgia Ezra, all the way from Australia today. So we've got Florida and Australia. If you have not looked her up, oh my gosh, you guys, I am just ecstatic with this woman and all that she is doing and all that she's about. You are going to absolutely love her. But first, you guys, this podcast is brought to you by the WOFB, which is Women of the Flooring Business, where we flourish in flooring, life And all of the things for designers, for entrepreneurs, for lighting designers, for all of you tile people, installers, materials, you name it. 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We did an entire magnet MVP floor Magnet Vinyl Plank Flooring, just here a few weeks ago. That rep came out, made sure we had everything that we needed for an entire female installation crew. So LATICRE is always there to support us. For those of you just joining, we are in season two, which is all about the hammer versus honey approach. But as we wrap up this season through work life, all of the stories, all of the things that we've talked about is the approach. How do we as maybe installers, as designers approach our clients or approach life? Are you hammer or are you honey? How do you feed your growth? What is the metaphor that you can use for problem solving if you've got to have that hammer or honey? So with that being said, guys, I'm so excited. Like, I can't even take it. This woman we're about to spend the next half hour with, Georgia Ezra. She is known for her interior design firm, Studio Ezra. She is the director and creator of Tile of Ezra. But there is so much more we're about to find out about this woman. She is seriously a superstar. Hey, Ezra. Hi. Wow. What an intro. Cameron, thank you so much. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you are so welcome. I knew we met when Tice are coverings. Yeah. And as soon as I heard you talking just from a few tables over, I heard your accent. I was like, she is so interesting. And then I learned just from talking to you in that short time that the TV show, all of these things that you're doing. And I was like, I need to know you. Our listeners need to know you. I made some posts this week about talking with Tyle of Ezra and everyone was like, we love them. We love them here in the US. So welcome to WOFB, Women of the Flooring Business and much more. Thank you. You are so welcome. So you have a podcast too that you had through your business for some time, right? Yes. So I haven't actually done a podcast in a little while, but I have a podcast called Step Up Your Home. And it is all about creating a home that is basically allows you to be the best version of you to live the healthiest life that you can. And I was kind of interviewing people from all different aspects under that umbrella. So whether it be individuals that were making product that were sustainable and really healthy, like lime wash for your wall or plastic free products, or even I interviewed you know, a sun cream brand which was pure zinc and, like, things for your own body and your skin. So anything under that umbrella of home or things like, you know, thinking about, like, the way you practise tradition or culture in your home. So there was a widespread... topic that was you know you know we brought people in from all different aspects but um it was it's been a lot of fun and I look forward to reinvigorating the podcast again yes so I love it that you're you're you remind me somewhat of myself of kind of being the serial entrepreneur I know that you have the podcast. When we met, you were telling me about, we'll cover a few things here, but you were telling me about the tile. You were telling me then about the television show that I think it's you and your husband do in Australia. And then today I saw you have a textile line and pajamas or like a... It's like this really, like, it reminds me of this Martha Stewart edgy, yet, I don't know, the right word for all of these lines that you were doing. But I was like, oh, my gosh, tell us a little bit about each one of those. Just a little bit. I guess like, yeah, like I can't help myself sometimes. I'm inspired by many, many things. The root of my inspiration always comes back to the artisan and creating beautiful moments for your home, whether it's what you wear or what you put on a shelf. or, you know, what you cook your product in. I just like creating beautiful moments and why shouldn't we celebrate every moment? You know, I don't like saving something special for when special guests come over. I use that every night with the kids and, yeah, At Home With Georgia Ezra is a homeware line. It's celebrating the handmade, the one of the kind, the exclusive piece. And, yeah, so I'm very, very drawn to artisan-made products, which you see with Tiles of Ezra, which you saw with HW, which you see with my interior studio Ezra. And, yeah, I'm a serial entrepreneur and sometimes I need to take a step back and really think about, Should I do this? Should I not? Like, you know, because I think us entrepreneurs, we've got so many ideas and there's often like all of them could be great. But yeah, it's a lot of fun. I have a lot of fun. So you are so fun. You guys, if you are not following anything at all with Georgia, you should be. Here's their website, though. It's TilesofEzra.com. And we're going to get into some of your other socials here in a little bit. But a lot of our listeners, Georgia, are from the tile industry. They are installers. They are GCs. They are flooring contractors. Some of our listeners are also manufacturer reps. Some are manufacturers that design their own tile as well, like yourself, Allison Eden. We have Mercedes from Mosaics. You know, there's a lot of really amazing people that listen to this. So I can't even tell you how excited people are. Can you tell me, so let's talk a little bit about origin and inspiration. Can you tell me a little bit about the moment when you realized that you needed to create Tiles of Ezra? Right. So I feel like that moment goes back to my childhood. I've talked about this story before, but You know, when I was really young, I would go to my auntie's house a lot and I distinctly remember her laundry. Just think like 60s orange tiles, florals, porcelain, you know, like really thin, very old. And she used to have them on the floor and on the splash back of the counter or as you guys say, backsplash. Yes. And I was, from the age of, I don't know, since I was born, I was going there all the time. I would stay there while my parents were away. And I just loved these tiles. I used them as inspiration in a project when I was studying interior architecture. I was always drawn to that texture, those layers, the prints. My background is I was born in Australia, but my father was born in India. His ancestry is in Iran, Iraq. So I got this Mizrahi Jewish background and I'm very drawn to sort of Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, European, anything under that bracket, anything actually, anything other than in Asia, anything I'm very drawn to. And so I feel like. that love for those tiles was just the natural love and desire for that type of material from a very young age. When I went out on my own as an interior architect at the age of 23, I was brought on to do a meat, wine and cheese store called Mon Amour in an area called Albert Park in Melbourne. And I wanted it to have this sort of French meats, like sort of like a French... you know, bougie meets Mexican hacienda style, like hexagon terracottas, talavera tiles. And in Australia, we didn't have a lot of Mexican products. It was porcelain and stone. It was very, like, large, modern, grey, white. And so I really struggled finding the product. My brother-in-law is Mexican and I called him up and I'm like, Miguel, I need your help. Where can I get Talavera tiles? I want to like create something really cool in this interior I'm looking for. So it just so happened that his cousin was like someone who helped source and she helped me bring in this material and I put a little margin on top and I, you know, sold the tiles to the client and I thought, okay, wow, this is good. Like this could be cool. So I got some samples. I sent out and I took one photo. I sent out an EDM and within 24 hours I had an order. And that was the virtual trials of Ezra essentially. So it came out of the desire and the need of, of a product in Australia we didn't have. And then from there grew like other ranges and other styles and hunting teams and finding artisans and really exploring what you know, styles and designs and colorways that I loved that I couldn't find and then curating that and like building sort of a pathway for that and creating Tales of Ezra's own look, which was done very subconsciously because essentially with Tales of Ezra, I don't really just bring in anything or what's in trend Or, you know, I carefully curate lines of products that I would put in my own home. If I wouldn't put it in my home, it won't go on our website. That's like the rule. So all the different ranges together. I can't, I can't. I can only sell what I really love, you know? Right. You know, I love that you brought up one very clear point. And even though it's very simple, it truly is what makes an entrepreneur successful. And that is you saw a need. You saw the need that was in Australia and you went out and you put action to it. And that is what truly really creates an entrepreneur and a business that when you have that need, and you put action to it, oh my gosh. Now look at all of these beautiful pictures in your background. For those of you that will see this video, these are all of the pictures that are from your website. And everything that you're talking about, I can visualize and see it. And now looking, I've been on your website, I've looked and I was questioning, I was like, I wonder what that connection with India, and now it all makes sense. So beautifully, you're such a great storyteller. You talked about the design philosophy for tiles of Ezra. You mentioned also, I think in an article that I read about sustainability and how that just goes beyond materials used, longevity and that emotional connection. You talked about also having things that if they're in your, you know, you would only select things if they were in your own home. Can you dive a little bit deeper into that of how you ensure that each tile you design reflects this philosophy? Yeah, I think, you know, I think when it comes to our homes, and I want to talk more about where I'm coming from, which is Australia, because I don't know that it's as, it's as, I don't see this as much in America. But I will say in Australia, interiors are very trend driven. There was, especially when Tiles of Ezra was born, you know, over 10 years ago, and being an interior architect, I see this a lot. And it's that people are very scared to step out of a box Homes are very trend-driven. They want that, right? And as someone who's very passionate about experiential homes, hitting, and I call it the sixth sense, which is your own personal desire. I always say to clients, send me some, like when I'm doing interiors, because I am an interior architect, I'm like, send me the one hotel that you've been to around the world and That makes your soul sing. You walk in there moved. What is it? I want to see because that's the feeling I want to evoke when you walk into your home. I don't want to create a house. I want to create like this sensory home where you walk off the streetscape into your own escape. And what that is for you, Cameron, is different to what it is for me. Okay. So that's really the source of when I talk about the sixth sense. So when I talk then about sustainability in interiors or in tiles, I'm really aiming that at creating homes and using product that will never expire for you. So creating timeless interiors, not temporary interiors. So if you love red and you want an entire room to be bright red because that makes you feel sexy or passionate or whatever it is and you've always loved red paint the room red please and the ceiling and the cupboards and to the carpet too you know like I want this and and there's a background image to this podcast and it's a bathroom interior that I did and my husband Richie built I would never do that in my home. People see it. They're like, that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen or the most disgusting. And I love that. I want them to find it disgusting. It's not for them. It's for the homeowner. When that homeowner brought me on, they said, and I'm not going to swear, so I'm going to use like letters and alphabets. They said... I won't swear. They said to me. I swear all the time on here. So do what you want. Their brief to me was create the most F off bathroom you've ever seen. That was like their brief to me. And I was like, okay. So, you know, we painted the ceiling with gold leaf. We did like crazy mosaics. We like hung a mirror down from the ceiling. We did sections in cobalt blue. We tiled front. of drawers. We imported like hand-beaten brass sinks from Morocco. Like every detail was considered. And their whole house, like there's no blue or yellow in their whole house. Like it's just that bathroom. Their house is different from every room. And to me, when I talk about sustainability, yes, I talk about the hand that made it, the materiality, the contribution to earth, like how it's packaged, you know, using materials. cardboard boxes that can disintegrate and be compostable? How do we pack out our samples? What is the product? All of our product is made by hand or from the earth, but usually from the earth, it can go back into the earth. But I think sustainability goes so much further. I want to create a home that no one's ripping out for the next 60 years. We're not adding to landfill. We're creating long-term timeless homes that that the end user loves. And it's about evoking that feeling and not following trends. And that's what I talk about when I really, you know, mention sustainability of products as well. You know, and I love that you brought that up too. I can 100%, you know, connect with you when you're talking about that timelessness and making it, for me, being a lighting designer, I call it the vibe of the home. And that is the vibe of, that individual what entices that dopaminergic feeling with them what light does to all of their sensories how does it make them feel on that design perspective and for some people you know they they want something that's very bright they want something that's very warm so it's very much so about And I love that you bring that up about the sustainability for the timelessness, because that's so important. And especially now where we are, you're so right. A lot of people, I will say Midwest, Midwestern of the United States, everyone is very much so conservative, traditional, transitional versus if you're looking at West Coast or East Coast, they're very edgy. It's all about them, that uniqueness. There's no cookie cutters. And they think outside of the box like that, exactly what you're talking about. And those trends, we look at that But the trends are, you know, they can be also very classic. We're seeing a lot of that now with the color palettes of where we are, even with lighting, more bulbous, more round versus more, you know, back in the day. And even just last year, it was the dark metals, the mixing of the dark metals with lots of linear design. And now that's all changing that we've seen that too. People like that comfortability as well, I believe, in their own home. It's like exactly like you said, if you want your wall red for I got my God painted red. And there's nothing wrong with comfortability and there's nothing wrong with classy, classic timeless. Look, if that speaks to you, do you know? And that's what I mean. I'm not saying everyone needs to have a bright yellow bathroom. I'm saying if bright yellow is you, go for gold and look inward for the answer. Don't look outward. That's what I'm talking about. And if inward is I really want that house that speaks to me, I'm obsessed with it, I want that for the next 50 years, go for gold. Like it's all about celebrating the you in it. And Cameron, I actually remember when we first met and you told me you were a lighting designer. And I said to you, I said, it's the most underappreciated, I think almost, I'm going to use like the word aspect or professional, I think in our interior architectural industry. I actually think lighting is the most important thing. It will make or break a space. That's right. It literally will. I always say like there's like two to four things you could do in a house. If you don't want to change anything, you don't have a budget and lighting, it's like paints, new hardware on cabinetry, window furnishings and lighting. Right, right. Like it's... It does. Make or break it. It's like I'll never forget in my first year of working as an interior architect, we did like this massive project and a lighting designer was brought into the project. And I remember at first I was like, you know, little miss 23-year-old, know it all, straight out of, you know, university, first job, you know. And I was like, why do we need a lighting designer? Like, I can just do this. It's so easy. I just put down lights. And I remember working with this guy and I was blown away. And I learnt so much from working with him. And I just, there's still so much I don't know about, like, what the light hits and how to apply it. And I think it's just such a huge, like honestly, and I always say like in our house, Richie and I, our favorite time of the day is at night. We only put our wall shades on. There's this hum. We talk about like a hum. It feels like a sound, but it's of sight. And it evokes those senses. And that's really huge in good design. Like it's a huge thing. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, I love that you bring that up because you know, that's what I'm known for in the tile industry is bringing LED and light to spaces. And it is, again, invoking that dopaminergic dopamine. When someone walks into a space, that's what my CEU is all about, is about bringing dopamine to spaces through tile integration. And I remember that there was so much kickback that a lot of installers were just like, oh, I can just buy strip lights off of Amazon. And I'm like, look, bro. not what I'm doing at all. Like this, it's completely different. We're looking at photometrics. We're looking at the vibe of the room. We're looking at Kelvin. We're looking at all of these different control mechanisms. So many things go on to it. And, you know, a lot of, so I have a partner that I work with through lighting design and You know, we'll look at a CAD drawing and we'll just be like, okay, you want lights to chase? I mean, we can take something and throw $100,000 worth of just linear lighting, you know, as being an architect. Just linear lighting in a space that's not even decorative and being able to layer something. Oh, God, that is my jam. We could do this all day. I see you. Yes. So let's talk a little bit about artisanal craftsmanship. So I know that you've already mentioned a little bit about working with artisans from around Morocco and Mexico, India, which I love. I actually was studying Sanskrit in my 20s. So that's a beautiful, beautiful place there. But talk to me a little bit about how the relationships and key parts of when you're dealing with tiles of Ezra, can you share about how you've built those relationships with the craftsmanship and preserving traditional craftsmanship with the product of tiles of Ezra? Yeah. I think firstly, what I want to say is that from the get-go, I had... you know, a great sense of respect for sustaining the craft, like the original craft. So not getting a copy Zalij made in China, like getting the real Zalij, sustaining that craft, giving back to the community and the country that that craft originated from. And that has always been a very strong philosophy for me with every single thing that we embark on at the company. That's number one. But I will say that, you know, the artisans and the teams we work with, they are the reason we have a business, okay? So for me, our relationship with those individuals and those teams are as valuable and as important as our relationships to the end user and the client. They aren't separate. They go hand in hand. And it's something that I'm very, very passionate about. The relationships take years, you know, especially when you're working with handmade products. So much, there's so much that can vary the end product. There's so much testing. There's so much back and forth. And there's so much respect to be had. There's a lot of patience that needs to be had. And if you're someone that... You cannot deal with any variance to a product. A handmade, you know, line is not for you. And I'm talking about someone that's working with manufacturing teams, not necessarily the end user. Sure. We give back to all of our Ardens that we work with. We have very good connections. Not only do we choose to support these manufacturing lines, but we also pay for schooling for children of all of the families, especially in our Zalij community. And Every year we're visiting our manufacturing lines. It's like very beautiful moments that we share with them. It's a relationship. It's a family. It's something that we never take for granted. And it's the highlight of my year every single year when we get to do those visits. We bring our children along. We want to connect cultures. We want them to see and understand different, you know, cultures and religions around the world and to have those connections too. Right. I think those relationships are what make our connection and our exclusive manufacturing communities so valuable to us but also are so valuable to them. It's not just about a sale. It's a lot deeper than that. I get very emotional about it, to be honest, because I truly feel like our teams are... the reason we do what we do. They are the source of our business. We can't do it without them. And we can't, we have like this honor to share their art, their generationally taught art form with the world, you know. And I think it's very easy as an end user or as an individual that sits in, you know, America or Australia or anywhere in the world to compartmentalise a box of tiles from a person that's making them. You know, it's not just a box. of tiles that get laid on a wall. There's so much more, especially with handmade tiles because there's like 12 layers of lines of hands. When I say it's not 12 people, I mean like 12 layers. There's clay sourcing and then a delivery of the clay sourcing and then mixing it with water and then putting in a mold and then beating out bubbles and then cutting and then there's drying and then there's collecting those dried biscuits and then there's dipping it in a glaze. But that glaze has been mixed by a guy who is not, like no one else is allowed in that glaze room other than that individual. And that individual was taught by his father, who was taught by his grandfather, who was taught by his great-grandfather. And those glaze recipes are taught by mind. It's not a written recipe. Like it's not baked cake. It's by memory. And so no one's allowed to touch it. a single bottle in that room. Only he has the key to that room. And so then it gets put in a kiln. But, like, depending on the placement of the kiln and the heat variation that weaves through the kiln will reflect the tone of the glaze or the colour of the biscuit. And then those are cut down into little pieces. But those pieces are cut down by, like, men who are thinking and have families and, you know, have their own life. Yeah. What do those lives look like and how are they treated and how are they paid? And I'm just specifically talking about, say, a Zalige. When people say, oh, that Zalige is the same as that. No, it's not. It's not the same at all. There's such a vast variation between Zalige suppliers and quality in so many areas. Yeah. I think that you nailed it. You know, I get very passionate about it. Well, and you're a humanitarian. And honestly, that again is what makes you the successful business owner that you are because it's just not about manufacturing and pushing tiles in a box. And I knew that about you from the first or second page that was on your website. I think that you're sitting... I think with your children, your husband, and then you're sitting with some, it looks like craftsmanship, people who are in the industry who are actually, it is their hands that are crafting the tile, you know, and unfortunately I have not been able to travel the world, but I've been to many manufacturers. And one of the things that was so important to me that I remember the first time that I ever watched an installer create a bathroom was, It was all of the installation, but it was the creation of, you know, it's hard work to destroy a bathroom, to clean it up, to get it down to the bones, to make sure walls are plumb, that everything has a science and it's perfect. And then to watch those calloused hands dip in and cut tile and it's cold or it's hot. Yeah. And, you know, they're dirty and they're, you know, swollen. And just to continue to watch that person create this wall, this artisan, this work of art, for me, the very first time that I saw that process, and he wiped the last... bit of grout haze, I remember thinking, this needs some light. This is so drab. Let's throw light on it to really change its space. So I can totally empathize and emotionally connect with what it is that you're talking about on just a little bit of a different level. But you're right. I don't look at grout. I don't look at mortars. I don't look at any of Laticre's materials. the way that I ever looked at it on a shelf again, once I got to see the men that were going out to pick sand, all of that passion that they put into it and how much actually goes into it, you know, definitely on a different level, but to be able to see that from the perspective and you tell the story about, I mean, it's like that we're right there with you. So Thank you so much for sharing that piece with us. A little bit about business and how you operate. So this season for us has been all about hammer versus honey approach. So that is just kind of that philosophical way of how you approach relationships. I'm known to come a little bit with the hammer because I'm on job sites a lot, usually the only woman, or I'm dealing with GCs and dealing with organized chaos, as we talked about earlier today. How would you describe your approach when working with clients? Do you lean towards more of a directive, assertive style, the hammer, or more nurturing, persuasive style, or a combination of both? I would say, I was going to say I'm sort of in the middle, but I want to start by saying, firstly, when I'm designing homes, whether it be supplying the tiles or like genuinely I'm like the creative designer of a home and the principal designer for Studio Ezra, I'm always like it's the end user's home. It's not my home, okay? It's their home. So that is always like the running, I guess, like it's the number one aspect to the design. I walk away, they live here, okay? So that's number one. I'm very honest. I'm not afraid to say what I think. And I will always say what I think. And that's why my clients trust me so implicitly. They'll just be like, whatever Georgia chooses half the time. Because if I think something's not nice, I'm like, that's the ugliest thing I've ever said. Like, no, sorry, no. Like, I will say that to them. Like, they'll send me things. I'm like, no. So that's a little hammer. But then there are some times where I'm like, you know what? It's actually much of a muchness. I like both of them. Which one do you gravitate to? So sometimes they'll say, I don't like this. And I'm like, no problem. I'll bring you a few other options that I like. I have to like it, but they have to like it too. I'm not the type of the designer that says it's my way or the highway. You employed me for my aesthetic. Trust me or not. It's my job actually to show them what's in my mind in a very good way that will enable me to sell my vision to them. That's my job. 9.8 times out of 10, they're with me. On the 0.02 times, I'm like, okay, I'm actually happy also to do this. Also, sometimes, like, we want to do something, but they don't have the budget to line their entire ceiling in timber. So we just go with, like, timber joists and the rest plasterboard. You know, like, sometimes I've got to give and take myself based on the budget requirements that our clients have. So... I would say I'm sort of like in the middle. I'm not afraid to say what I need to say. you know, for the best of the project always. But I also am quite, I work with the client and I also work with the builder. If the builder's like, you know, if he's like, I can't do this, I'll be like, yes, you can. I'm going to show you four jobs I've done that on. Look here. And then he's like, fine. You know, sometimes he's like, I can't do this because of this. I'm like, okay, got it. That's fine. And I work with him. But I'm like, okay, there are some female builders I've worked with too. No, I love that. I love, I would have definitely maybe assumed that about you. You're very balanced, which is a beautiful thing. Yeah. Yes. Even if a builder comes to me and says to me, I'm over budget and I'm really struggling here. I will be like, okay, let me see what I can do to balance it out. Maybe I can do this or like I'll work with everyone. I'm trying to work with everyone, you know? That is so important. And honestly, you know, another beautiful thing is for those of you that are just joining us right now, we are talking to Georgia of tiles of Ezra, who is off the chain, you guys. So entrepreneur designer. designer architect, humanitarian. This episode, I know people are just going to absolutely love. So we're just finishing up talking a little bit about the hammer versus honey approach. Georgia, talk to me a little bit before we wrap things up here. It's like eight o'clock at night, almost nine o'clock, and my old self is almost ready for bed. Talk to me a little bit about your future vision as someone like yourself, who I see as being so successfully emerging in all of these fun traditional ways with contemporary design, where do you see Tiles of Ezra heading in the next few years? And are there any regions or styles that you're excited to explore? Yeah, so I'm always creating, I'm always designing. I'm always very much looking at like, what's next? How can we reinvent? How can we grow? Whether it's within our existing ranges or like bringing in and designing new ranges. I really enjoy introducing something that I haven't seen before on the market. So constantly recreating so that the end user being the homeowner or the interior designer or the architect can be given these amazing tools to create like such an excellent interior for their client or for themselves. That's always the core of my reinvention. But at the base of it is, of course, like my own aesthetic and style. So for sure, I am in the process. current already designing two different ranges that are very different to one another but both of them very much reference age-old techniques like I want to make you feel like you've got access to you know floors that you saw in like an old French you know like the south of France or you the piazza floors of Italy or Tunisia or something, but recreated in a way that's maybe relevant to today or bringing in patterns that reference Jaipur and maybe block printing, but in a way that feels Mediterranean, European. So definitely some new floor and walling designs that are different to anything that you've seen before. And also maybe looking at some... you know, something quite different in, you know, the bathroom, maybe a basin line. Okay. I love where this is going. I can't say too much, but yeah, looking at expanding some of our ranges into areas that we've never worked before. Okay. You know that I love hearing everyone is, will we see anything that will be coming out at coverings? Will you be doing coverings or any us shows? Um, we are hoping to, so it depends how quickly I can work, but we would love to. Yes. Okay. That is, that is good for me to know. And we haven't mentioned, well, we mentioned it a little bit, but we haven't talked a lot about, tell me about your show that you and your husband do in Australia. Yeah, so Richie and I have a TV show. It's called Design Down Under. It airs on HBO Max, will stream on Max, Magnolia Network and Discovery+. It follows Richie and I around, you know, areas and suburbs of Melbourne and Victoria, Australia, which is where we live. Okay. And we basically design and renovate... homes for homeowners. And yeah, we had like so much fun. Season two launch, I think it was in August, May of this year. So that's going, there are 14 episodes between the two seasons. It's a lot of fun and huge eye-opening experience. We had an absolute blast, but we used a lot of tiles of Ezra and yeah, a lot of fun. Oh my gosh. So fun. Thank you for sharing that. Where else can people find you? Do you have Instagram? Yeah. So you can follow me on Instagram, my personal account, Georgia Ezra, or you can follow tiles of Ezra, which is our tiles of Ezra Instagram account or studio Ezra, which is our interior architectural account. Oh my gosh. Here we go. So here's the IG. So this is tiles of Ezra. You guys, I have it online. I know for sure. I think I follow all of yours now. So be sure to check out Tiles of Ezra. We are so excited to see what we're going to be looking forward for what you come out with for 2025. You will have to keep in touch with me if you're going to be at any U.S. show ever, ever, ever. I will drop everything and fly out to see what it is that you are doing. We will do some live feeds for you, support you however we can. Please lean on us for any sort of support that you need for people. Thank you. That's what this is all about for us. So I'm so thankful that you were able to take out the time to meet with me and all of our listeners for the W.O.F.B. They're going to be ecstatic whenever they hear this as everyone loves to flourish. And, you know, I think it's really important because there's so many women that I've talked to that, you know, we see where you are today. And it is this, you know, shining light. You are when... a woman who is just working in a showroom, she sees and she aspires to be that. It's so good for them to like hear the connection that they can make with you as a human being, because at the end of the day, you are a human being, but you have action. You have action that is behind your vision and you're able to make those actions a reality. So, you know, if anything, these stories and just having this time with you and women like Alice in Eden and women like Mercedes and Angelica, you know, those are all women that we've had on this show. we get comments all the time that it's like, just what she said inspired me to be where it is that I want to be. It just inspired me to get out of where I am right now or to stand in my power because I wanted something. So I know that there will be many nuggets that you were able to just plant for some of our listeners today. So that I am so grateful. So thank you so much. Thank you. I mean, I do want to just say, We are all human and we're on this earth to have joy and to bring joy and to share joy. And that's the source of everything. Yes, you are absolutely right. Well, again, if you want to buy any tiles or specify any tiles, TilesofEzra.com, please check it out. I will also show you maybe whenever we get off stage. I think that I have a Tiles of Ezra that I did in Michigan. 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