Oh my gosh, you guys, we are back. We are back. We are at the tail end of season two, Flourish in Flooring. I'm your host, Cameron Matheny. You guys, again, I cannot even get over the women that we've had on this season today. I'm gonna knock your socks off, or she's gonna knock your socks off. Rachel Morty with Interiors. She's an amazing designer. Just wait until we chat with her here in just a few minutes. Most of you know I am Cameron from Cameo Studio Designs, where I offer a CEU for designer dopamine. I am that visionary, that woman that you want in your life to bring light into your space for tile. for Stone, all of the fun stuff, the jam, that is me. This podcast is proudly presented by the WOFB and sponsored by Cameo Studio Designs and Laticrete. Speaking of Laticrete, if you are a DIY enthusiast, contractor, or tile expert, let me shine a light on Laticrete as a brand that is synonymous with quality and innovation. 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But without further ado, you guys, today I'm chatting with Rachel Morty from Sandy Ago. I'm sure you have seen her. She is an award-winning designer, number one best-selling author, style expert, as well as a color patternista. Perhaps most importantly, Rachel is the ultimate colorful character. Those who know her and follow her on social media look forward to seeing her vibrant wardrobe, electric jewelry, eclectic jewelry, and ease with being what she calls extra. I love this. Rachel's multicultural roots. She is Mexican, Native American, Filipino. are an integral part of her love of diversity in design. Rachel is not afraid of color, texture, design influences from across the globe. And here she is. How are you? Hi, how are you? Thanks for having me. Oh my gosh, you are so welcome. I have such a mouthful of everything that I wanted to say about you. I get so excited, just your background, everything about you. How is San Diego today? San Diego, like in Florida, we're living the dream, right? It has been so hot. Every afternoon there's like storms that come through though. These tropical storms that then come morning. Everything is just so green and beautiful. It looks like a tropical oasis here. Amazing. Well, we look a little like a desert over here, but we still have the ocean and it's gorgeous. Right. What are you up to these days? What are you planning for? Oh, right now, everything has picked back up. I feel like everybody was in Europe this summer. You know, summer is just, we have a seasonality to our, to our industry. Summer, everyone's traveling with their family, kids are home, everyone's distracted. And now finally, You know, everyone's back, back to business, ready to go. So I am just kind of, you know, revisiting everything because it's, you know, it's like even my brain took a little bit of a vacay. Getting back like, okay, what did I already do? What do I have to do? You know, calling people, getting in touch with everyone. So yeah, that's what's going on. How old are your kids? I have a 24 year old. And a 14 year old. She just started. She's a freshman. Yes. So you were clothes shopping, getting it all together for school, I would assume. A hundred percent. Yes. I love that about you. So that is so amazing that, I mean, everything that you do, everything on your website, all of the awards that you've given, and then you're a mom on top of it, like, oh, accolades to you. That's absolutely incredible. So I kind of want to dive in about your career journey and where you are because people can go to your website. They can read all about you. Let me put this up for you. Actually, people can go to your website. They can read all about you. And we see this, you know, very successful interior designer. Did you start out as a very successful interior designer? Yes. Can you tell me a little bit about your journey? What inspired you to really focus on color? Because that's your vice, baby. That is your vice. Yes. Well, I started in the fashion industry. So, you know, like any young girl, I started in retail and then I kind of went up into visual merchandising. I did it here. I lived in Dubai. I did it in Dubai as well. And then I worked for a catalog company and I was a photo and prop stylist. I worked in the advertising department for about 10 years. I've had like six careers, by the way. I mean, people are always like design is a second career. I'm like, it's like my sixth. So it was just kind of a natural progression. It's like when I got my first house, just my, you know, my, my interests organically changed from fashion and clothing into into home. And the fashion never went away, but you know, it was funny when I stepped into the design industry, I felt more at home there and, Like, I knew this is where I was meant to be. Everything else sort of also, you know, made sense. And I bring it into my work. But, yeah, it was just an organic thing. And then as I started working with... people's homes I don't know if it was because of my background in photo styling I always wanted a moment like as soon as you walk in I pick I pick you know I want to direct your eye I want to create you know I want to create where your eye is going to go and I did that with color so But what I noticed going deeper as I honed my skills and started, you know, the honey approach, as you call it, with my clients, I would notice that there was a connection. People had a connection to color. So I'm working with a girl now and she's a young doctor. She's from St. Martin. And it's like when she sees the color terracotta or terracotta tile, she has this like visceral connection. I can see it. I can feel it. I'm getting the goosebumps talking about it. It's just, you know, so it's a connection. So then I go and research what are the colors that are in interiors there, you know, trying to see how she grew up. And she is definitely not afraid of color. She loves bold. But there is a connection. It also... Um, can create a mood if people want to feel serene, if they want to feel energized, if they want to feel creative, uh, you know, there's, there's all kinds. It's not just, it's not just something in the background. It's actually a tool. It is a tool. And, you know, I firmly believe I have lots of tattoos all over my body and now I'm working on redoing all of them. But there's something about that color just that I have on my skin as a canvas and to amplify that even more. Anytime I'm feeling just a little drab or just a little like mood, you know, it's raining outside or whatever, you know, we go through humans. I go to my closet and I pick out like, this is one of my favorite. And anytime I add color to my space and wear it, it just, it changes the dopaminergic feelings even that I have. Yeah. I love that you have actually addressed that and you pinpoint that because just like lighting and color, having those two things, you can make or break a space, anything at all. Even art, as we look at art and something super beautiful, even though art is in the eye of the beholder, But I do know that studies show if art is bold and it does all of these things, it has pop to it, it does something to the dopaminergic chemical releases. So I love that you've brought that up. So thank you for sharing that. So you brought up a good point too about the honey approach. And as I mentioned, this season is all about the hammer versus the honey approach and how people define and how they define either honey or hammer, how they navigate through using those different techniques. Can you talk about approaching your design that you had to balance a hammer approach, maybe being more assertive or honey with anything that you've done with clients? I feel like I have to use it every day. I think we all do. And I think that's what the coolest thing about women in construction or women in flooring is because we... we balance those very well. So it's funny, I'm working with this couple right now and I have to use almost like a hammer approach with the husband and a honey, a really drippy honey approach to the wife. And it's funny because when she approached me, she was like, I cannot... I cannot get my husband to move on anything, you know? So I knew I was going to have to be a little more assertive. I also didn't mention that I used to be a private banker too. And so what that does is I know my numbers. I have spreadsheets, you know, I'm like anyone can challenge me on that anytime and I'll go toe to toe with them. So I'm always prepared to work with the husband. The husbands are very analytical. They don't want to spend money. You know, it's just, you know, all the time, all the time, all the time. So I'm always walking that tight, that tight rope, you know, and then on, on a job site as well. You know, I am, I am pretty honey when I come onto a job site because I work with a general contractor. He's the hammer. But before I met him, I have had to release people, release subs from job sites, just either because of their work or their energy or their attitude. Now I've been working with my team for about seven years. So I am not the hammer on the job site anymore. Yeah. Of course, when there's issues and something goes wrong, then I kind of jump in and, you know, let's get into problem solving mode. And then I got to make the call to the client. But, you know, it's like a little tightrope every day. Right. No, that's a great example. I love the way that you brought that up because, you know, you're so genuine that, but I can see both. I can definitely see Ms. Rachel dropping that hammer when she needs to. I always say, I'm always like, I'm nice until I'm not. Yeah, right? Aren't we all? Right? Yeah. So that brings me into my next question about entrepreneurship and leadership and running a design business. What do you think that your biggest challenges and rewards of running your own design business have been for you? I think it's definitely like the boring stuff. Yeah. I talk about dopamine. I am a dopamine chaser. It's like, if I could have it my way, I would be going in networking events, being in showrooms and touching and feeling, going to industry events, you know, doing installs, doing photo shoots, but that's just not all of it. You know, we do have to work with budgets and we have, you know, all of the back end business stuff too. So, and I have ADHD. So it's like, That is the challenge for me is like make putting buns in the seat and, you know, staying there. So, you know, what I do is I usually go for a walk and just get like all the energy out and whatever. And then, OK, I just, you know, and I just tell myself, like, you just have to do it a couple hours at a time. I kind of chunk things down because my ADHD. But yeah, I think that's the biggest challenge. I love that, though, that it's so important that we have it kind of like bodybuilding. That's my comparison. We have to be so disciplined with a system that works. And when you have a system that works, for instance, for bodybuilding, there's that discipline. The day starts with discipline. I know that if I don't go train by 12 o'clock in the afternoon, then I'm done. It's not happening. Yeah. And it's the same thing too with my business. I have a system. I know that if I am not where I need to be, you know, with answering emails by this time, I have that system. And I think that that's so important to also know thyself because when we do, we can build on our strengths and we know how we can operate within our own realm. I love watching your Instagrams too. I know I'm like, oh, she's on her walk right now. That right there, I do it too. Although I go skating at the pier with my dog. Yes. We're still lucky. Well, I guess. I've wiped out a few times, but you know that. I know that that's super important to have, A, that discipline, that regimen, knowing how we just function, knowing what works for us. And that system for a business, you have to have it. You've already said you're a numbers person. So having those strategic things that we must do, we have to do, regardless if we don't want to do them, that's so important in running a successful business. We have to remember too that like we're the asset. Like my business is Rachel Moriarty Interiors, you know? So I'm the asset. So nothing can flow out if I'm creatively blocked, if I haven't been, you know, and with the ADHD, if it's like just stuff swimming, if I don't get it out, either journaling or physically get the energy out, you know? And like you said, not know thyself, you know? And remember that you're the asset. Without you, there is no business. So it's like, you have to figure out, you know, cause sometimes overwhelm will just put me in a freeze, you know? And so it's just like, I've got to just, and I'm not, I would not say I'm disciplined. Like I am not bodybuilder. Like, you know, I don't have that mentality. Girl, I'm not that disciplined right now either. So it's, yeah, I love that. That's the cool thing about owning a business is, you know, I realized, you know, like looking back at jobs that I had that were in corporate, I'm like, actually, I don't function between nine and five. I function really early and I function really late, you know? And it's like, it's so funny. I'm like, no wonder it was so hard for me in corporate. Right. Oh my gosh. I think I lasted in corporate a very short time. I always tell people, I'm like, First off, I'm an HR nightmare. Secondly, I'm unemployable because you talk about like as an entrepreneur and we have all of these things that drive us and do all of these things for me, I have a blessing and a curse and that is I'm a visionary. And so I get an idea in my head and I just blow it out of the water and I start chasing that. But then I have this vision here and this vision here and this vision here and all of these things Like a serial entrepreneur, I have probably 12 projects going on right now. And I'm just like, okay, we'll get it done. I mean, it just, it's the way that my chaotic brain works. Yes. You know, like ADHD is the same. It's like you, it's a gift and a curse. It's a gift because you can, you get into this mode called hyper-focus and It's like the house could be burning down around me and I would have no clue. Like I am just like in this flow and like, I have no idea. I have like started working on a project, worked all weekend and come up for air. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like where, who fed my family? I do the same thing. And I always tell people that like start working around me. I'm like, okay, just so you know, I am a visionary. And whenever I get something in my head, I'm going to go a thousand miles per hour. I'm going to be gone for like a month, but I will come back. I'll land. Yeah. So it's a blessing and a curse. So good stuff. You know, speaking of one of my businesses, so 15 years ago, I was on tour as a pinup model. And I was on tour in a 1960s Shasta seafoam green with the wing Shasta trailer that on the inside I did as like a pinup boudoir meets tiki lounge from the 60s, right? It was so much fun. Amazing. This background that we have is a trailer and I know that you've updated some Airstreams. Tell me about maybe one of your favorite projects because I'm going to drop your website again. People can go and look at this. It's probably one of my favorite projects I think that you've done. Tell me about this. Yeah, this one was super fun. It's a 1973 Airstream Argosy. And the difference between the Airstreams and the Argosys are the Airstreams have the metallic finish and the Argosys were painted on the exterior. um and this one was fun I mean talk about hammer it was a logistics thing um we we couldn't get it into the house so we had to have it craned into the house and put into this little narrow spot that I talked about visionary it was like once I got the vision of this you know fitting right in this little area it's like how can we you know you got to move uh mountains to do that. So we got it in there and it was at a beach house and we just literally gutted it. It was so, it was really disgusting. Like it wasn't that expensive when we got, when we, you know, we just wanted the shell really. And then I did, I partnered with a, I did it for the one room challenge, actually. I don't know if you're familiar with that. I've heard of that before. Yes. So it's like you have eight weeks and you, you can either blog about it, vlog about it, Instagram, whatever, but you just update from start to finish concept to completion. And so even though it was a client's project, I, I was like, let's do it. So I got some sponsorship. I got some flooring, DecoVita sponsored the flooring. And so I did, you know, tile would affect flooring in there. And then Mohawk, I worked with Mohawk and, and, So it was just really fun. It was fun to pull in sponsors and pull this together. And we did it within eight weeks. Oh, my gosh. It's beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. And we started... I started thinking like, what would, what would the inside of, you remember I Dream of Jeannie when we were growing up? A rerun show. I grew up all like watching that all summer long. And I was like, I remember the inside of her Jeannie bottle and she would just be sitting, you know? And I was like, I want it to be like that. And so that's kind of how we came up with this. And it's like sort of a Moroccan slash I Dream of Jeannie inspiration. Right. Oh, my God. I love that so much. That's exactly what it reminds me of. Just I want to go like I just want to go there and like vacation. Yesterday I was talking to Georgia Ezra, Ezra Tiles, and she brought up a really great point. And I thought of you instantly. She said, anytime I ask my clients that they need to where they're going to get their inspiration and they don't know, I always say to them. what is the most beautiful hotel that you've ever stayed at the interior? And that's where we're going to take inspiration. And you and I both know, I love that Art Deco. Oh my gosh. On the West coast, Palm Springs. And I love like I have a lot of clients that will call me and be like, we're on vacation in Hawaii or we're in Bali. And they'll just start sending me photos and they're like, this is the name of the hotel. This is I want some element of this. And, you know, and it's really fun. I love when they start sending me photos from a hotel. Yeah, right. There's some amazing, you know, I live about eight miles from the Don Cesar Hotel, which was, it was built in 1890s, I believe. It was done all in original flamingo pink from that era. And it's all, the architect was from Morocco. So everything in a lot of it is, you know, it's original. It's changed a little bit, but I stayed in the penthouse. I stayed in the penthouse there. Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio stayed there. So I was like, wow. And at the time, they're like, it's six grand. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. You're such a penthouse girl. Anyway, so that's where I'm going to get all of my inspiration for everything that I do. So for you, let's dive into the future of design trends. You are going to be the person that is going to, I know you're going to be talking about this in 2025. What are upcoming trends in color and design that you're excited about? And honestly, Rachel, like how do you as a color pro, like that is your vice. How do you stay ahead of such a dynamic field? Well, you know, I go to the shows. Um, I met you at ties, right? We met at ties. Um, yeah. So I do the surfaces show. I do the kitchen and bath builder show, and then I do high point market and then I go modernism in Palm Springs. And so I try to hit, you know, several shows a year and that really, it just kind of trains your eye. And what I did really early on, because I started blogging early on, is I said, I'm going to approach each show because, you know, I wanted to pay, I'm taking time away from my family, taking time out of my business. You know, it's, I'm paying for all the, everything. So it's like, you know, I have to make this worth it. And so how, how am I going to approach this? So I approach it almost like from a journalist perspective. point of view. And I do my own blogs and stuff like that. But then I ended up doing a lot of contributing to, um, actually I just had an article come out in coverings magazine and they, from the tie show, um, their spring 2024, they had me do an article about, uh, what, what I thought ties. Um, so I'm always just looking like I just, You know, because I have been a style spotter for high point market. I've been a design influencer on a design influencers tour. But even before that happened, I was like, I don't really need somebody to call me a trend spot or a style spot or something like that. Like I can do that for myself. And it really did that approach helped me sort of plant my flag in the industry. And yeah, have a point of view, you know, because I'm just, I'm searching, I'm like kind of hungry for it. Um, so some of the things that, that is coming is color drenching. I don't know if you're noticing, but people are starting to color drench a room where they're painting the ceilings, they're painting the walls and the trim, all the same color, and maybe working with some different finishes. So maybe the trim have like a higher sheen, but it's all in the same color. It's really beautiful. And color drenching and dark colors, but they'll add like a lacquer sheen to it so it still reflects light. suck in the light. That's really fabulous. I'm really happy to see maximalism coming back and really like looking at um, the old decorating that we used to do, you know, real proper trims on pillows and bullion fringe and pattern on pattern. You know, it's like we started simplifying, we got into this really simplified, like white, bright with a little blue stripe in it, you know, and now it's like, you know, layers and colors and, and details. So I love that. Um, What else is going on? Quiet Luxury on the other side is kind of making a big moment. So if you aren't into the color, Quiet Luxury is more timeless. And then I'm just a big fan of like, I go in, I'm never going to tell people that everything has to go. Like if you have grandma's something in there, we are not getting rid of it. Like it just holds. memories. And it's, you know, again, for me, it's a connection. So I love taking heirloom pieces. And in quiet luxury, you tend to see some of those more heirloom pieces. Right. So those are some of the things I see. I love that. Oh my gosh. I love the term color drenching. Yes. Isn't it sexy? That is so sexy. Yes. God, you need to brand that girl. Yes. Oh, I love that so much. So, well, thank you for sharing about trends and colors and where, I mean, you are the girl to know for this for sure. So let's talk a little bit about, you know, we dabbled into a little bit of what future is going to be as far as upcoming trends, but For you, what is a vision for the future for what is next for you, like upcoming projects or goals that you're particularly excited about? And what are some events that you're going to be speaking at? So two things, vision, excited things for you, goals. And then also, what are some trade shows you're going to be speaking at for twenty twenty five? Okay, so at the end of this year, in the fall, I'll be speaking at High Point Market and talking about fluency in construction. I'll be doing a workshop at KBiz with our friend Sharon Sherman. Sharon Sherman will be on this construction panel with me as well. And we are also doing something at TICE. So that is what's in the near future. Um, what was the second part of the, no, no, no, that's okay. I know. I always ask like multitude of questions. No, no, it's okay. Um, it, it's really about the vision of your future, like goals and things that you're, that you're working on. Yeah. So, you know, I really want, I, I'm actually kind of in that questioning. A lot of what you see me doing on the beach is trying to vision. And create, you know, so it's like I'm trying to create quiet space because there's not a lot of quiet space in my life. And I'm in that process right now. I don't really know. That's the honest answer. I think I'm just trying to I'm so I'm celebrating that in September 15th is my 10 year anniversary for Rachel Moriarty Interiors. And I'm like, what are the next 10 years? I'm like in that space, like what are the next 10 years? And it feels big. So it's like I'm getting a little bit of a freeze response around it. But what I would love to do is more brand partnerships, more collections, stuff like that, you know, where it's not just projects. And I am working on some bigger projects. I've got some new build, a new build that a big new build that I'm doing. And I have about 14 projects happening right now. So it's going to be a busy year. Incredible. I'm so proud of you. That's so amazing. Thank you. I love that like you're so authentic about, you know, everyone is always talking about, oh, my goals, my manifestation. And I love the authenticity that you give me when you're just like, you know, I just don't know. I don't have that answer yet. Yeah. And that's okay too because, you know, some people don't and we just sometimes we'll fake it till we make it. But that true transparency of like where you are, that is such a beautiful thing because I know really big, bright, bold things are going to come from you whenever, when that vision hits, girl, look out. We're going to have some color drenched. Some color drenched vision. Yes, absolutely. I love that. You know, I, I remember whenever I first met you that I was, I was like, Oh, I said to Sharon, I was like, Oh, who is that? And she's like, Oh, we're going to dinner. Come on. And I'm like, and right off the bat, it was just this in eight. It was just innate. The connection that I had with you because you were once again, so authentic, there was no BS. It was like, this is who I am in my raw space. And I, For that, I have to tell you that I give you accolades because, you know, not very many women and people in at all intimidate me or make me feel like, oh, my gosh, I'm not even at that caliber. And I saw you and you were one of those people that I was like, whenever I grow up, I want to be a Rachel Morty. It's so cool. Thank you. Too cool for school. So, you know, I love following you. You inspire me. You inspire me to do better. You inspire me to really push to be on those platforms that shows to be that vision for people when they need their lighting, you know, that vice when they need that. You and Sharon both, you're both truly an inspiration for people in the industry that want their voices to be heard. So thank you for doing all that you do for women in this industry. Thank you. Thank you so much. We need more. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. So much more. So where can people find you? I know we've got your website here, Rachel, um, um, interiors.com. What is your Instagram handle? You're at, is it Rachel? Rachel Moriarty. Yeah. Interior long. Yeah. but that is really where I'm at. I'm at, I mean, not so much like on the feed, on the feed, I'm probably post something a couple times a week, but you'll see me and stories every single day. I, I started with my cup of coffee every morning and then you, I take you along on my beach walk and then, you know, little snippets throughout the day, little behind the scenes. And that's where a lot of people kind of create a relationship with me is in the stories. So come hang out with me there. Absolutely. And then any other, your blog is on your website too, right? So people can read and go for that. And then do you have any brands or products lines that are out right now? I don't, not right now. I am doing a, an artistic mirror collection. And we both sort of have some family stuff come up and so nothing for this show, but we will be doing that again. I could so see like a coffee table book with everything that you've done. My gosh, that would be so good. You know, I consider it. I have considered it because I've worked with my photographer since 1995. She does all of my interiors. So everything sort of has the same look and feel. And I've thought about doing it, but I don't know. You totally should. I would buy it and people would love it. It would be any kind of like art fun pop. Oh my gosh, you should so do that. Right? Yeah. Well, girl, do it. I will send some sponsorship to you because I would love to see something like that done. I've done, actually, Lattie Creep, by the way, I am so happy they are one of your sponsors because I did a collaboration with them. And they're amazing. I don't think people realize, well, I don't know why people sleep on grout. Like, they just think it's this afterthought. And it's like, it can change the look of everything. And Lattie Creep has... Such an incredible array and the custom colors and the glitters and the, you know, it's just like, it's absolutely amazing. They're absolutely amazing. And they're actually our only sponsor. And they, since day one, they have been like, what do you need? You know, I've flown out. I've been on panels with them. They've been a huge supporter. You know, I'm working on an all-female installation crew. We did our first job here in Florida, and the rep flew out. He was there with us from start to finish, made sure all of the women installers knew about the product, took his time. We started this project at 10 o'clock at night. He left 8 o'clock at night. We hung out with this all night. We burned through a drill. We caught fire. It was so much fun. But I love it. Laticry is where it's at for sure. So they're absolutely amazing. I hope one day that, you know, I'm working on some fun LED stuff and they're always, what do you got going on? What are you working on now? So I hope one day we'll come out with some fun shimmer stuff with them. We'll see though. I'll let you know. Well, Rachel, thank you so much for joining me today. It's been such a pleasure to hang out with you. And I look forward to seeing you in 2025 at all of the upcoming trade shows. Are you going? Will you be at the shows as well? Yes. I am not dropping what we are doing there yet. Okay. Yes. I'll see you. Okay. One surprise for sure. So, all right. Well, thank you for joining me. I look forward to seeing everything that it is that you're coming up with for 2025 again and keep shining girl. My goodness. We love you too. Thank you. Bye. Guys, why Ladecree? I'm going to continue with this conversation that Rachel and I were talking about. Because for over 65 years, Ladecree has built their reputation tile by tile. Their products are globally proven and trusted by professionals for their superior performance and ease of use. So whether you are working on a bathroom makeover, kitchen backsplash, our favorite, or expansion commercial project, Ladecree offers installation solutions to make your vision come to life. From their ultra-reliable thinset adhesives and easy-to-apply waterproofing membranes to their durable and stain-resistant grouts, they've got you covered. 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